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Old Dec 20, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51   #61
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Forget the QQ.

I like the change and my main (yes, it's a PvP char) will be happy too.

If you want the gloves or something for PvE chars, turn your points into zkeys and sell them, buy the gloves. Problem solved.

P.S. Don't forget we must purchase 50 basic skins just to gain access to fancy, 50 fancy for exotic and same for armor... All the QQ is simply misinformed. If anything, PvP way will cost you more.

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Old Dec 20, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #62
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PvErs need ~375k to get chaos gloves. PvPers need 1200 RP's (equivalent of 1200k if they got zkeys and sold them for 5k each).
I think its more than that (Basic > Fancy > Exotic, because for some dumb reason all the EotN armor is in weapons, to make it harder to get I guess).

Anyways, I managed to read up to about page 3 of this thread laughing at PvErs crying and thinking about what I might be able to say to shut them up. Then I remembered that Guild Wars is a GAME, specifically a pretty DEAD game, which the developers have appeared to have given up on for the most part so that they can concentrate on their next project.

Please, please, please, just ask yourselves if these RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing gloves or emotes that were only cool 3 years ago are worth getting upset about.

Go bake a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing cake or something, much more productive.
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Old Dec 20, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #63
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So this thread went from a Yay - pvp vs pve - flame each other for being bad/good - working out u needed to unlock stuff before u even got shiny hands - more pvp vs pve - pve'ers QQing because they cant get that many Rp's then back to flaming each other


On a side note, It would still be alot faster to buy them on a pve character anyways, Just turn the Rp's in for Zkeys sell them and buy ecto's
Much faster imo
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #64
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Don´t forget winning a monthly GvG tournament grants you 4500 rps!!! If 100 guilds participate and you are the number 80 at the end, you would get (100 - 80 + 1)*4500/100=0.21*4500=945 rps. Being the last gives you 45 and the second last 90 points.

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Old Dec 21, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #65
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Anyways, I managed to read up to about page 3 of this thread laughing at PvErs crying and thinking about what I might be able to say to shut them up.
Well, personally, it just proved that PvE people that complained don't know anything about how PvP rewards system works.

Not that I'm blaming them, but opening wiki page and reading about it could have prevented 90% QQ posts here.
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03   #66
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Don´t forget winning a monthly GvG tournament grants you 4500 rps!!!
OK, now this is the highlight of the thread, everyone read this guys point several times please. Definitely wins the arguement, I think I can safely admit defeat.

PvErs > PvPers.

Well that settles it then, time to delete all my PvP characters and farm mindlessly so that I can buy Chaos Gloves the only FAIR and JUST way there is. BY GRINDING!!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 12:29 AM // 00:29   #67
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OK, now this is the highlight of the thread, everyone read this guys point several times please. Definitely wins the arguement, I think I can safely admit defeat.

PvErs > PvPers.

Well that settles it then, time to delete all my PvP characters and farm mindlessly so that I can buy Chaos Gloves the only FAIR and JUST way there is. BY GRINDING!!!!!!!!!
The point is if you are good enough you are getting a ridiculous amount of rps. 4500 points are 4500p if sold as Z-keys, every month!
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41   #68
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It took me under a week to farm my Chaos Gloves so I don't understand where this "months of farming" claim is coming from, unless your extremely slow/terrible. It's still going to be easier to PvE the chaos gloves for 98% of the GW population so who gives a shit anyway.
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53   #69
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After reading some of the things said in this thread I'm a little surprised at the reactions. I really would not have expected a QQ thread from this. Some of you guys obviously have no idea how much work it takes to get enough RP's to unlock these skins.
I can do ALL the PvE I want and I'll NEVER unlock the tiger though PvE.
A lot of work is ALWAYS faster then never being able to do so.

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I'm sorry but the "PvE'ers deserve everything the PvP'ers get" argument is really stupid. Winning in PvE takes very little skill in comparison to winning in PvP.
Like i said - you don't need to win against the best players. You just need to keep winning against the crappy ones.
The skill argument would actually be viable if you ONLY gained fame by beating people that at least as skilled as you are.
Otherwise - you are just a farmer that sucks at picking locations.
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #70
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No, you need 1000rps once over all your characters on that account and then 200 rps per chaos gloves. PvE need 75 ectos and 10p per chaos gloves. I normaly get around 80 rps from the predictions. So after a year of guessing (not playing the game) I would have gotten that 1000 points investment for free. After that it is a new chaos glove every 2.5 month, which is equivalent to 200p, not 375.
okie...so the cost effectiveness break point where pvp chaos gloves become cheaper than pve chaos gloves is after ur 6th pair

do u really want more than 6 different pvp charas all wit chaos gloves?
1 is fugly nuff already


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The point is if you are good enough you are getting a ridiculous amount of rps. 4500 points are 4500p if sold as Z-keys, every month!
okie so 8ppl out of the million that play gw get this luxury
while nearly any nub can farm ecto

shouldnt the more deserving players get the more deserving rewards?


honestly...pvp should get more attention because gw is a pvp game
at least it was....until all the pve qq's came and anet gave in to them
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16   #71
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who cares what you wear in PvP if you can't win?
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Old Dec 21, 2008, 02:22 AM // 02:22   #72
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